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Top Forums Shell Programming and Scripting POSIX way of getting columns in tty? Post 302275570 by Perderabo on Sunday 11th of January 2009 07:24:56 AM
Old 01-11-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlliagre
I'm quite sure all the tty drivers available in modern Unix variants handle the non POSIX tty wxh geometry (termios TIOCGWINSZ) and the event triggered when it changes (SIGWINCH) when using a terminal emulator on a windowing system.
I hope you will agree that Solaris 10 counts as a modern Unix variant. I wanted to use the serial system console on ttya. I connected a serial cable to second Solaris 10 system. On that 2nd system, I opened a terminal window and in that window in used tip to connect. That all works fine. But when I vary the window size on the 2nd system, the first system does not seem to be informed. And no fair telling me that I manually type "stty cols 100" (or whatever) after I change my window size.

The Solaris driver used to control ttya (and ttyb) is indeed a real terminal. The other kind of terminal is a pseudo terminal. In the case of a real terminal, where a real tty driver is truely controlling a real serial port, this isn't going to work. It's true that the old printing teletypes are almost completely gone. Ditto those "ascii terminals" too. But the serial port is still alive and well. We either use another unix system as above or a laptop running putty on XP or something like that to connect to a serial port.

This isn't to say that I dislike your solution. I think your solution is as good as it gets. I am arguing that the search for an even more generic solution is futile and that there no help to be had from Posix.

And also note that jlliagre replaced awk with a grep/sed combo. Solutions involving awk are very dangerous on Solaris. Sun absolutely refuses to retire the antique version of awk so you must either use nawk or fiddle with the path on Solaris.
 

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dc

dc(4)							     Kernel Interfaces Manual							     dc(4)

Name
       dc - serial line/mouse/keyboard

Syntax
       device	 dc0  at ibus?	vector dcintr

Description
       The  serial line controller provides four ports, with modem control on two of the ports.  The DECstation 3100 and DECstation 2100 only pro-
       vide partial modem control.  The DECstation 5000 provides full modem control. The ports are used as follows:

       Port	 Usage
       0	 Graphics device keyboard at 4800 BPS
       1	 Mouse or tablet at 4800 BPS
       2	 Communications port 1 (w/modem control)/local terminal
       3	 Communications port 2 (w/modem control)/local terminal

       Each communication port from the serial line controller behaves as described in and can be set to run at any of 16 speeds.  For the  encod-
       ing, see

       When  a	graphics device is not being used as the system console, communications port 2 becomes the system console.  In this configuration,
       the port can only be used at 9600 BPS and no modem control is supported.

       The serial line driver operates in interrupt-per-character mode (all pending characters are flushed from the silo on each interrupt).

Restrictions
       Speed must be set to 9600 BPS on the console port and 4800 BPS on ports used by graphics devices.  The serial  line  driver  enforces  this
       restriction; that is, changing speeds with the command may not always work on these ports.

Files
       console terminal

       local terminal

       local terminal

See Also
       console(4), devio(4), tty(4), ttys(5), MAKEDEV(8)

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