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Operating Systems Solaris One StorageTek 6140 vs Two (2) 2540 's? Post 302227223 by bakerzdosen on Wednesday 20th of August 2008 10:33:40 PM
Old 08-20-2008
Thanks for the update. The "wow this is fast" experience has happened to us a few times with x86 boxes. However, keep in mind, that the Sparc architecture is really aimed at multi-user multi-threaded apps. The old adage is still true: "If you put 5 users on a Sparc system, it'll run slow, but if you put 500 users on a Sparc system, it'll run slow." My current favorite is the x4450. I really love that box. Yeah, with one single threaded app, the x4150 seems to run just as fast (if not a touch faster) than the fastest x4450, but for what we do (Intersystems' Caché), we seem to get better results with x86 than Sparc - at least at things that really bog down the processor.

BUT, here's the thing: I put in a couple of x4450's (4x 2.4GHz quad core) not too long before a couple of m5000's. Each had 4 quad core procs (but obviously they're really not in the same league in price.) One of our setup steps is to recompile a bunch of classes in a couple databases. Now, this process brought a pair of 4x dual core Dell boxes running Win2003 to their knees (100% CPU) for about two minutes (the boxes are about 6 months older - and don't get me wrong, they've been great boxes. They replaced two v880's and the guys running them love 'em.) When I got to that step, the x4450's were running at about 30% usage in prstat and finished in roughly the same time frame if not faster. There was no comparison with the Dells really. Nonetheless, doing the same (actually double the number of db's and hence double the workload) on an m5000 finished in about the same amount of time as well (possibly 5% longer). However, the m5000's didn't even break a sweat. Try as I might, I don't think I saw prstat rise above 18% - and that was only momentarily. I could have run this in the middle of the production day and not one of the hundreds of users connected to the server would have been the wiser that it had happened.

I don't think Sparc is dead by any means. Expensive? Certainly - but it always has been. It's just targeting a different demographic. Those that want to have hundreds (or more depending on the task) of users connected and have the utmost in stability are probably better off with Sparc. I'm actually installing some older v490's this week and even with the slower 1.05GHz procs, they're still pretty good boxes in most regards. And although the 3510's I'm using with them seem slower than 2540's, I don't like CAM and the fact that you can't have volumes/LUN's over 2TB with the 2540's and 6140's. I miss the flexibility of the 3x10's

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I still love the 2540's, but we did end up spec'ing 6140's (and CSM200's) for another bigger than normal project. I'll report back if we end up getting them and I have a chance to run some tests with them. I'm still guessing we'll see a difference in performance, but that it will be really hard for us to tell how much performance increase without really loading down the system with user connections.
 

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ruptime(1)						      General Commands Manual							ruptime(1)

NAME
ruptime - show status of local machines SYNOPSIS
DESCRIPTION
outputs a status line for each machine on the local network that is running the daemon. status lines are formed from packets broadcast once every 3 minutes between daemons (see rwhod(1M)) on each host on the network. Each status line has a field for the name of the machine, the status of the machine (up or down), how long the machine has been up or down, the number of users logged into the machine, and the 1-, 5- and 15-minute load averages for the machine when the packet was sent. The status of the machine is reported as ``up'' unless no report has been received from the machine for 11 minutes or more. The length of time that the machine has been up is shown as: Load averages are the average number of jobs in the run queue over the last 1-, 5- and 15-minute intervals when the packet was sent. An example status line output by might be: The above status line would be interpreted as follows: is presently ``up'' and has been up for 1 day, 5 hours and 15 minutes. It currently has 7 users logged in. Over the last 1-minute inter- val, an average of 1.47 jobs were in the run queue. Over the last 5-minute interval, an average of 1.16 jobs were in the run queue. Over the last 15-minute interval, an average of 0.80 jobs were in the run queue. If a user has not used the system for an hour or more, the user is considered idle. Idle users are not shown unless the option is speci- fied. Options If no options are specified, the listing is sorted by host name. Options change sorting order as follows: Sort by load average. Sort by up time. Sort by the number of users. Reverse the sort order. DIAGNOSTICS
No status report files in Ask the system administrator to check whether the daemon is running. AUTHOR
was developed by the University of California, Berkeley. FILES
Data files SEE ALSO
rwho(1), rwhod(1M). ruptime(1)
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