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Top Forums Shell Programming and Scripting In ksh, how does an in-line child sub-process get its own PID? Post 302074863 by MichLab on Friday 26th of May 2006 12:48:06 PM
Old 05-26-2006
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Thanks for the insights.

I do find the behaviour borderline nuts presuming different rules for coercing variables.

An arguably valid definition I can think of as an alternate is that "$$" is by definition the initial shell's PID as opposed to the current process's PID, independent of sub-shells much like PPID is the parent of the initial shell regardless of being in a sub-shell or not. This is consistent with a few ksh man pages I dug up though not obvious.

It also seems to be consistent with a few experiments I tried with "eval" with a composite string that results in "$$" which would preclude the initial parsing of the (....)& from coercing a manifest $$ and that also produced the same result.

That ksh treats a subshell differently from a forked instance of ksh is consistent with other aspects of behaviour (e.g. variables need not be exported to be seen by a sub-shell) but it sure messes up the notion of using inline code vs external scripts in any consistent manner.

I will derive an alternative strategy (messing with ps -ef is not an option because my code needs to run under Solaris and Windows/MKS wherein ps differs due to the information about process parameters maintained by Windows).

Thanks again.
Michel
 

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suspend(1)                                                         User Commands                                                        suspend(1)

NAME
suspend - shell built-in function to halt the current shell SYNOPSIS
sh suspend csh suspend ksh suspend DESCRIPTION
sh Stops the execution of the current shell (but not if it is the login shell). csh Stop the shell in its tracks, much as if it had been sent a stop signal with ^Z. This is most often used to stop shells started by su. ksh Stops the execution of the current shell (but not if it is the login shell). ATTRIBUTES
See attributes(5) for descriptions of the following attributes: +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ | ATTRIBUTE TYPE | ATTRIBUTE VALUE | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Availability |SUNWcsu | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ SEE ALSO
csh(1), kill(1), ksh(1), sh(1), su(1M), attributes(5) SunOS 5.10 15 Apr 1994 suspend(1)
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