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# 50  
Old 03-12-2020
Yeah, if you just wasted hours to get help its worth nothing.
Specialy not, if you have a headache and a pulse of 240 from trying to stay calm and cooperative - and beeing the only one succeeding doing so.

What I've learned in the military service, and should have kept to my heart alot more often that I did, was to "blend out" every other input disturbing you from your task at hand.
And most often, its best to stick with one owns gut and instincts one had in the first place, than listing to what other people say.

And sometimes it's good to make a mix Smilie

Take me and my TUI/SWARM.
My questions aside, I should not have listened to several (with their best intentions! - I know that) advices, but as good as they sounded, they did mislead me from my original goal.
So, when I finaly reached the 'goal', I realized I had to do all over, because it was the wrong one.
On the other hand the suggested name by Peasant did sound cool, and as full text, I think it's kind of meaningfull too, though still less descriptive as TUI (imo), but the point beeing, and I just realized that 2 minutes ago while writing the first paragraph, is that it PERFECTLY describes what the main purpose of TUI/SWARM does, to swarm over a folder with scripts and functions (take over control) Smilie
Point beeing, some suggestions let you waste time, others take time to realize how good they are/were.

(sorry, but this is on my mind like the migration is on yours)

Well, by now you've become an expert in editing vbulletin.rb files for sure, havent you? Smilie

Yep, why would you send them stuff their not interested in anyways?
Just another waste of your time and energy that could be better spent.

But something bothers my mind...
If that migration stuff really takes that long in a docker... why not do it on a real machine?
Sure not the server, or is that why it 'now' (some hours ago) it took so long for each page to load? (thought it was my internet at that time (250mbit though))
In which case I apreciate that you use a VM/docker thing Smilie Smilie
# 51  
Old 03-12-2020
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Originally Posted by sea
Well, by now you've become an expert in editing vbulletin.rb files for sure, havent you? Smilie
I'm getting better at this the second time around, for sure; but I'm not an expert on ruby for sure.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sea
Yep, why would you send them stuff their not interested in anyways?
Just another waste of your time and energy that could be better spent.
I harbor no ill will that the leadership team at meta gave me the cold shoulder regarding vB3. I don't blame them. vB3 was EOL a very long time ago.

In addition, the leadership team over there are very smart tech development guys, and most tech dev guys in that league are not very "customer service support touchie-feelie".

I can vouch for that. When I am developing some difficult code, and someone is starting to 'annoy' or 'distract' me; and I also get very edgy. I think this is the nature of tech and developers.

In addition, those leadership guys over at discourse meta are funded by at least two venture capitalists. This creates enormous commercial and financial pressure in startups, so I cannot blame them for choosing a different road than me.

For example, I don't need to get "filthy rich" and am more of a "Zen, live by the beach, guy these days", and so I made the personal choice to never join a tech startup; and now I'm retired and living on the seacoast with the sound of the surf in my ears 24 hours a day and the warm ocean breeze all the time. That was my choice. I don't fault others for choosing the stressful life of venture capital funded startups. Plus, most people work at stressful jobs with the goal of living in some great location, like next to the warm ocean or in a mountain cabin. I have already reached that goal 10 years ago. I would be wrong of me to fault others for trying to reach the same goal and living in a stressful situation, right?

To each his or her own. We all follow our own path and move our feet to the sound of a different drummer.

Also, I greatly appreciate that discourse open sourced their core software and that the created a vb4 migration script which I can modify for vb3.

So, I am perfectly OK to share with discourse any lessons learned from this migration (if I actually get it done),

And, I will not post any more bug reports over there regarding this migration or ask any questions.


Quote:
Originally Posted by sea
But something bothers my mind...
If that migration stuff really takes that long in a docker... why not do it on a real machine?
Sure not the server, or is that why it 'now' (some hours ago) it took so long for each page to load? (thought it was my internet at that time (250mbit though))
In which case I appreciate that you use a VM/docker thing Smilie Smilie
Because the discourse install for non-docker is a nightmare and that opens up a very big can of huge worms.

Migrations like this can sometimes take months of planning and weeks of tests and execution. It's slow going, but lets' see....... I have already started "round two" today:


VBulletin 3.8 to Discourse on Docker Migration Test Take Two
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# 52  
Old 03-12-2020
In addition, today, I was thinking that if I can get this complex, two decades old vB3 to discourse migration working well, I may offer this migration for free to 10 other vB3 sites
as a way of "giving back" to the the vB community of the past.

For example, we have used a lot of free vB PHP plugins here over the years, and so, if I can pull this off and have a smooth transition methodology for this migration, I think I will offer to do this for free for 10 other big vB3 sites like ours but only for those who will self-host, not for anyone who is planning on using a discourse hosting service.
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