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# 8  
Old 10-05-2015
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Originally Posted by Corona688
Which is why the average North American now carries one or more RISC processors at all times, has several more in their home, and is increasingly using them for all computing.
I certainly get your point. While ARM processors are technically reduced instruction set processors. They don't necessarily match the architecture of the PA-RISC chips.

Do PA-RISC chips have multiple cores and co-processors?
# 9  
Old 10-05-2015
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Originally Posted by gandolf989
Do PA-RISC chips have multiple cores and co-processors?
Neither did ARM, a while ago. They say RISC is nothing but young CISC.

Also, you forgot MIPS, increasingly ubiquitous in network routing devices.

Last edited by Corona688; 10-05-2015 at 02:12 PM..
# 10  
Old 10-05-2015
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Do PA-RISC chips have multiple cores and co-processors?
If they continued the development I suppose they would have...
About speed, what was the faster CPU mid 90 already, sont you find it curious how after making alpha CPu for DEC suddenly the pentium doupled speed ( and so the rest of INTEL cpus...)...
Are you saying Powerpc is CISC?
# 11  
Old 10-05-2015
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Originally Posted by vbe
If they continued the development I suppose they would have...
About speed, what was the faster CPU mid 90 already, so don't you find it curious how after making alpha CPu for DEC suddenly the pentium doubled speed ( and so the rest of INTEL cpus...)...
Are you saying Powerpc is CISC?
20 years ago someone had windows NT intel version running on an Alpha station using FX!32. The server was too slow to use in any practical way. Granted it was running a hardware emulator, but the chip wasn't that special. Perhaps if things were different we would all have Alpha processors in our desktops and DEC would still exist as a company. But we don't and DEC is long dead. All that I was saying is that the RISC server hardware of 20 years ago is dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FX!32
# 12  
Old 10-05-2015
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Originally Posted by vbe
I saw Hp folk being laid here, was sad as I knew most of them...In common? were over 50, and were old HP Team not ex DEC...
HP hasnt finished making mistakes... The first big one was the abandon of PA-RISC...
Because of that, we have no more HP srvers here... I can hardly justify my position anymore, thanks I know a little more so now I do mostly SAS integration on AIX and help when I can on AIX Solaris and Linux...
If you want to stay as sysadmin, the easiest for you would be to integrate an AIX team as AIX (IMHO) is the closest in terms of management/administration to HP-UX, and you could be efficient quite fast as smit is more powerful than sam and a good help when you know what you are doing/looking for but dont know all the commands

In any layoff typically there are those that want it and those that don't. Those that are young have no family or small family unit to support no loans to service will typically want to volunteer for it. They are young enough to start over.

I feel for those HP guys over 50 that got laid but I believe they are the lucky ones to get out. The ones that remain have to take on the additional workload and now they are changing the system. Once upon a time those benefits was capped at 25 months, 1 month of each year of service, then they changed it to a 12 month cap. Now there's an ugly rumor they are going to change to 1 week for each year of service cap at 12 thats over 75% cut.

And this has come out converting employees to become contractors
HP layoffs are going on now and involve a new job offer ... but no severance - Business Insider



I learned this back in CSC many years ago, if they announce layoffs it means they budgetted for it, I know this sounds crazy but you should volunteer for it be on the first train to get out. Once they deplete the layoff budget and they haven't managed to achieve their business goals thats when it gets ugly they will resort to all sorts of tricks. I remember in CSC they had 2 layoffs in then a painful pay cut followed by another 2 layoffs.


Once a company announces layoffs it means their business outlook has changed negatively there likely to be more than 1 layoff you should think about that.
# 13  
Old 10-06-2015
It is the dronification on the works.
They want people to obey, not to think.

Cloud ? It still needs sysadmin love.
Now you are not connecting physical servers and switches, but virtual ones.
It still requires knowledge how things work and how they should be configured.

Couple of sysadmins for thousands of servers ?
Yea, and N of insert made up drone positions.

As for HP, i'm working with HP gear for last 6 years on mostly all levels.
I cannot speak of the past (a bit too young...32), from what i've heard from 50+ folks HP was a great company when it innovated.
Shit started happening when instead of doing the work, they started buying other companies and playing money games.

HPUX is a great operating system standards compliant, but the hardware that follows today is just bad. Itanic sucks on so many levels (power, performance..)

Nobody can touch x86 - it is cheap, has the fastest CPU and does the job on the operating system you choose (solaris variants, linux varians, bsd etc...)

Who would choose Itanic,SPARC or POWER over Xeon for a new project ?
What advantages do you see in such selection ?
Think twice and ahead Smilie
# 14  
Old 10-07-2015
Since Oracle bought Sun i've jumped with both feets in the Linux bandwagon... i still love the Sparc architecture and Solaris but it's market is dying ... so is HP-UX (in my humble opinion). I've also drank the cloud koolaid with CI, CM, Agile and what not. I believe the pure sysadmin job is transitionning into the devops creature.

I've just switched jobs at 43 and add 40 compagnies contact me within in a month. Yes i'm in Europe but US is a more dynamic market. It should be the same if not easier.
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