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Old 07-29-2009
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Old 07-29-2009
My recommend starting point is to ask yourself why you want to be an "awesome hacker". If you do a little googling you will find (its commonly accepted anyway) it takes 10000 hours to become an expert in anything. I'm not trying to intimidate you or anything I'm just trying to emphasize that becoming an "awesome hacker" won't happen overnight, or even in a month. If you don't love computers then I would recommend putting your time an energy into something else. The 10000 hours has a catch 22. They have to be using and/or deliberately learning the skill you are trying to master. I think the best starting points for you would be reading "Pragmatic Thinking and Learning: Refactor your Wetware". After that I would learn procedural programming in any language (not assembly) alongside Comptia A+ certification exam objectives. I would recommend going to college and getting a job in the IT industry as your next steps after that.

To motivate you a bit look up the following people and read about how they got where they did:

Linus Torvalds
Bruce Schneier
Larry Wall
# 10  
Old 07-30-2009
Originally Posted by New2AllThis
Aren't there ways of covering ones tracks, being undetectable, etc...? I like movies like Sneakers. Life is different from the movies, but some of it is the same. Watching these kinds of movies gets me motivated, but then when I go to study and realise how much there is to learn, I start to lose that motivation.

I wish I started learning this stuff when I was much younger.

Being a hacker is a "ZERO SUM" game, there's no ultimate reward in it there's only prison. Penalities are stiff even if you don't go to prison, yes there are some who do get away but they are small ones, but as move on to bigger things the law will take interest in them. Once this happens it's like a heat seeking missile, no escape.

Take Kevin Mitnick, the most "Awesome Hacker" of the 90's and biggest computer criminal in the USA at the time of his arrest. Eventually the law caught up with him and went to prison, upon his release the only thing he can do to earn a living is to be a "security consultant" to work for the system he rebelled against what an irony, oh yeah he also wrote a book so that's 2 things he could do to earn a living, so you want to go to prison?

Btw it's a fact that people do get raped and sodomized in prisons, usually the strong will prey on the weak and guards look the other way, this is not a misconception. I don't need experience to know because these things do leak out in the news, for a 17yr old who goes to prison, it's going to be fresh meat.




you must be living under a rock to not know this, misconception erh .. want to go to prison then?

Last edited by sparcguy; 07-30-2009 at 12:52 AM..
# 11  
Old 07-30-2009
I didn't see the post about not getting caught. The people on this board are Professional developers, DBAs, administrators, etc. I would highly recommend taking the advice people are giving on here and staying far away from criminal activities because in the long run you will be in prison. If you like computers go to college and/or get a job working with computers and work your way up in the field.
# 12  
Old 07-30-2009
please do not hack my netwrok , I have only linux and UNIX Smilie

OT : first of all leran how to help someone , you must build not destruct
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Old 07-31-2009
Learn C. Not C++, C. Once you've grasped the fundamentals of C you'll be in a better position to understand some of the reasons C++ is the way it is, without that background it seems utterly arbitrary.

[edit] Oh, you meant "hacker" as in the Hollywood kind that doesn't really exist, not a self-motivated programmer/developer who creates useful things that challenge the computing world in positive ways. Whatever... There's better things to do with your time than petty vandalism, littering, and grand theft.

Last edited by Corona688; 07-31-2009 at 02:47 PM..
# 14  
Old 01-03-2010
Originally Posted by New2AllThis
If you were a beginner again, where would you start, what would you do differently, and what would you start learning first, etc?

...If your goal was to become a great programmer / hacker?

I am a 17 year old male who has a lot of time on his hands, plus, an eagerness to learn. However, there is just this small issue of not knowing where to start and what to start with - hence the above question.

What ever happen to this guy he in the big house or quit???

Just would like to know if he got his dream?

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