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# 50  
Old 04-07-2009
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Originally Posted by reborg
Grab a machine, install Linux or Solaris and get used to the commands and normal usage, don't worry too much about anything major. Figure out connecting it to the web and that kind of thing. Get used to the environment first.


I can't say, I don't have that particular one. Here's a good starting point for books: I'm new to Unix. Which books should I read? - The UNIX and Linux Forums

Unix Network Programming(by rich stevens).
Probably a bit advanced to start out with, but a very good book and you can't go wrong with Stevens' books in the long run anyway. http://www.kohala.com/start/#books


That's a good place to start.



Reminds me of what I did at your age, only difference was that it was the only way to get linux at the time. A very good idea, but just make sure you can still get to google some other way Smilie



EDIT: zxmaus, your last post got moderated, but I have no idea why
Thanks guys! okay, I will definitely check out that thread for the starter books. I can order a few of them to start with. and I'll definitely try doing linux from scratch. Yes, I do have another computer to get access to google Smilie I actually already have linux on my computer. I am using Linux Mint Elisia right now. I haven't fooled around with the command line much yet because the computer it's on I just got working again(the power button board failed on it so I just replaced it and now it's working again). But yes, I will definitely start doing linux from scratch. Now, my question is... should I just stick with learning Unix from a few books and doing linux from scratch as well? or should I throw in learning C++ on the side as well? I usually can do multiple things okay. I can usually pick up on things pretty quick too... I learned HTML fully in about a week and then learned XHTML(which wasn't much to learn as it's just a cleaner syntax then HTML) in under an hour. I know those aren't Unix related... but they're languages so I'm just using it as an example.
reborg - I definitely have the mind to want to get things working and keep working on things until I solve any problems I run into.
Neo - how would I go about geting involved with the open source development? I don't know too much so I doubt I have the knowledge to get involved yet. Just wondering.
Thanks for your help everyone... I appreciate it!
# 51  
Old 04-07-2009
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Originally Posted by hpicracing
should I just stick with learning Unix from a few books and doing linux from scratch as well? or should I throw in learning C++
I'd go for C before C++ and you can do the two in parallel, no problem.

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I learned HTML fully in about a week and then learned XHTML(which wasn't much to learn as it's just a cleaner syntax then HTML) in under an hour. I know those aren't Unix related... but they're languages so I'm just using it as an example.
That's actually the way you should think about it. It's only a language, it's the logic that you apply that counts.

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reborg - I definitely have the mind to want to get things working and keep working on things until I solve any problems I run into.
Then I would look at the system integration route, lot of experience really quickly and lots of challenges.
# 52  
Old 04-08-2009
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Originally Posted by hpicracing
Neo - how would I go about getting involved with the open source development? I don't know too much so I doubt I have the knowledge to get involved yet.
If you don't know how to write code, you might want to learn first. Maybe my suggestion was premature for you, since you are only 16 and don't have any formal education in programming or computers, or so it seems.

Are you still in high school? Does your high school have computer programming classes?
# 53  
Old 04-08-2009
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I'd go for C before C++ and you can do the two in parallel, no problem.
I agree - go with C rather than C++.

However, if you want to start with an object-orientated language go for Ruby, Scala, or Lua as they are purer object-orientated languages. C++ is a hybrid OO language which was basicly bolted onto the C language.
# 54  
Old 04-08-2009
okay...
Neo - "If you don't know how to write code, you might want to learn first. Maybe my suggestion was premature for you, since you are only 16 and don't have any formal education in programming or computers, or so it seems.

Are you still in high school? Does your high school have computer programming classes?" - Yes, I'm still in high school. I'm home schooled though so I don't have computer programming classes. Almost everything I know about computers I learned myself. You're right though, I don't know too much programming stuff. I know plenty about building, repairing, and upgrading computers and I've done plenty of that stuff... computer programming wise though... I don't know that much. I did a tiny tiny bit probably a year ago(it was with bash though and I was following commands written down) and what I did I liked. But I don't remember any of it. So, yeah, pretty much everything with computers I know I taught myself. I am willing to do the tutorials on cprogramming.com though and I do plan to do that. I really want to get started in programming though because I'd really like to do Systems Administration.

reborg - Okay,I will definitely do C first then, and I can do LFS(linux from scratch) along with it as well. After I finish learning C should I go for C++?
Just wondering...what is systems integration? I might already know what it is and just don't know the name for it... just wondering though.
Thanks agagin everyone!
# 55  
Old 04-09-2009
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Originally Posted by hpicracing
After I finish learning C should I go for C++? ..... Just wondering...what is systems integration?
hpicracing,

People here have answered questions on this topic enough. It is now time for you to go do your own work now. You have been advised what to do. You have agreed to do it. Now, it is time to stop posting questions about it and go do the work yourself. If you want to know what is "systems integration" you can go to Google and find out. As for learning C++ after C, I suggest you worry about that after you learn C, one-step-at-a-time.

Please post another thread when you have made progress on your own work.

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