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# 43  
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Now, I'm new to GNU/Linux, I'm just learning it.
I only know that 'ksh' stands for 'korn shell' . Nothing more.
So I've olny used Bash.

I can't say if Bash is better than Ksh or viceversa, I didn't try both them. Smilie


Freddie
# 44  
definitely bash (simple for simple tasks, for advanced tasks use some programming language like perl)
# 45  
bash. It lets you group things in useful ways some don't realize. You can redirect the output of not just individual programs, but entire loops.

Code:
for ((N=0; N<10; N++))
do
    echo "This is line ${N}"
done > lines.txt

# 46  
KornShell/BASH/perl rule, others drool

Ya know when you ask "most useful", it brings up the YMMV disclaimers. Anyhow, I've been programming shells for a couple dozen years or so and I've used all of the ones listed and about that many more. You can write programs in all the shells, but you'll have the best durability and portability by sticking with Bourne-flavored shells (KornShell, BASH and Bourne if you're hard-core).

Shell comparisons get "religious" and UNIX bigots like me are always going to emphasize why the other shells suck. So, my disdain of the C Shell may be a little overblown, but it's based on many years of trying to work around limitations of C Shell that don't exist on KornShell (et al.).

BASH is becoming more ubiquitious (since it's the standard on Linux), but KornShell is now a standard on AIX, Solaris, HP/UX, and most other major UNIX flavors. BASH is slightly more feature-laden than Kornshell, but at a certain point when you get really tricky, you'll want to use Perl (fancy data structures, infinite variety of modules, more powerful parser and definitely better performance for complex algorithms).

One of the most infamous treatises on shell flavor comparisons is by the illustrious Tom Christiansen. This is somewhat outdated, but really fun to read:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

Anyhow, many of these problems are fixed in T Shell, Z Shell and Whatever Shell, but the point is if you want a standard shell, stick with POSIX (ie KornShell). Anyways, Real programmers use perl. Smilie

If you go the KornShell route, pick up "The New KornShell Command and Programming Language (by Bolsky & Korn). If you're running Linux, keep it easy and start with BASH (various O'Reilly books on shells are superb also).

-Phrazz
# 47  
I'd love perl if it wasn't so resource intensive. I wrote an awesome Perl/MySQL script for a web inventory, then watched them install and use it on their server -- which turned out to be a P133 with 128MB RAM... ugh...
# 48  
Tools hi

hi wat r good
# 49  
Quote:
Originally Posted by buffoonix
How come so many prefer the Korn shell?

What I don't like about it is that it's proprietary
though by now I think there is a public domain ksh available.
Even though it's proprietary, it comes with the unixes I'm used to using, Solaris primarily. It becomes a proprietary issue when someone's using it on something like linux so they have to come up with bash instead. A perfectly good shell of course.

Carl

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