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Old 03-06-2012
while loops and variables under bash

Hi,

This is probably going to be very simple but i came across something i can't quite explain. Here is the situation: i have a list of files, which i'd like to process one by one (get the size, make some tests, whatever) and generate some statistics using different variables.

Something similar to this:

Code:
u=0
ls|while read f; do
#until [ $u -gt 5 ]; do
#for f in `ls `; do
echo inside u=$u
let "u+=1"
done

echo outside u=$u

And here are the results (there are 3 files in the current directory):

Quote:
inside u=0
inside u=1
inside u=2
outside u=0
So basically the variable u appears to get re-initialised somehow.

Using until or a classic for loop u keeps its value after the loop is executed, like this:

Quote:
inside u=0
inside u=1
inside u=2
inside u=3
inside u=4
inside u=5
outside u=6
So what's the deal ? That's under bash. Ksh gives similar results to the other loops.
# 2  
Old 03-06-2012
It's not the different kinds of loops that are doing it -- it's the pipe that does it. By putting your while loop behind a pipe, you are executing it inside a subshell. Values get changed in the subshell, not the main one, and don't get copied back.

ksh organizes pipes in a different order than other Bourne shells. The innermost loop runs in the current shell while the outermost loop runs in the subshell. This is a KSH-only feature.

Depending on your goal, there are various ways to circumvent or just plain avoid this. This is a useless use of ls * for instance -- a situation where you might as well be using the * operator instead of the external ls utility.

Code:
for X in *
do
        let "u+=1"
done

The 'for' loop overcomes this by putting ls in backticks, which runs it first, and sets the value in a variable. But this is not recommended as it will be confused by filenames with spaces in them.
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# 3  
Old 03-06-2012
Aha.. makes all sense now. Thanks for explaining and that nice link
# 4  
Old 03-07-2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corona688
By putting your while loop behind a pipe, you are executing it inside a subshell.
@Corona688: I too thought the same, and tried to check this by printing the pid of shell before entering while loop and inside while loop. Pid's are same. If its invoking a sub-shell it should print the pid of the sub-shell inside while loop, right?

Code:
#! /bin/bash
u=0
echo "before while, pid = $$"
ls | while read x
do
    echo "inside while, pid = $$"
    ((u++))
done

Code:
# bash --version
GNU bash, version 3.1.17(1)-release (i686-redhat-linux-gnu)
# ./test.sh
before while, pid = 6435
inside while, pid = 6435
inside while, pid = 6435
inside while, pid = 6435

Any idea what's happening here?
# 5  
Old 03-07-2012
@balajesuri: from man bash:
Quote:
Special parameters
[..]
$: Expands to the process ID of the shell. In a () subshell, it expands to the process ID of the current shell, not the subshell.
Quote:
Each command in a pipeline is executed as a separate process (i.e., in a subshell).
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# 6  
Old 03-07-2012
@Scrutinizer: Yes, you're right. How could I miss that!
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