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Will You Move to an Android Phone or Tablet?


View Poll Results: Will You Move to an Android Phone or Tablet?
Well, I already have an Android phone! 8 33.33%
Yes, I am thinking of an Android phone! 8 33.33%
No, I'm not interested in Android anything! 6 25.00%
Well, I already have an Android phone and tablet! 1 4.17%
Well, I already have an Android tablet! 1 4.17%
Yes, I am thinking of a new Android tablet! 0 0%
Yes, I am thinking of both an Android phone and tablet! 0 0%
Voters: 24. This poll is closed

 
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# 8  
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Originally Posted by Neo
Let's find out about users of Android. I'm becoming a big Android follower. You?

After a lot of research, I am thinking to by the Samsung Galaxy S as soon as it updates to Android 2.2.

I'm also closely following the release of the Samsung Galaxy Tab!
I jumped on android phones rightaway , because of Linux ...
but it s only the kernel ... the rest is .. java ... and there is no real fonctionality of the Unix on board for my kinda of usage,
So i dicovered maemo a real nix-like OS with linux of course, but i fell in love when i opened a terminal even more when a did ps -edf i saw X11 running !!!

even more you can chroot a whole debian in it Smilie

so i stole a nokia N900 and gave the vicitim the money he payed for Smilie

i usually buy a new phone every year, since then, there no phone that will satify me much more than this gem .
# 9  
Yea... but I don't need X11... to me it does not look very good on a mobile. I think the Samsung UI is really great.

Heck, I don't even like X11 much on UNIX/Linux systems and prefer the MacOS UI Smilie

When we speak of Linux/UNIX we are really not speaking of the UI. The UI is separate, by design.

I use Linux everyday for servers and never have used a Linux UI. That's me.

The good thing is that we are all different. No need to get religious about preferences. We support all here.
# 10  
The gui/terminal dichotomy's quite real when the people who write all your interfaces and applications believe in it. What good is ssh-ing to localhost when nothing you care about works from there?

My first program for PocketPC wasn't "hello world", it was "start/run" -- the alternative being inserting fixed strings in file associations via regedit! Being written in Java, half-divorced from the standard process model, the gap in Android apps must be even larger.

Last edited by Corona688; 10-08-2010 at 02:52 PM..
# 11  
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Originally Posted by Corona688
What good is ssh-ing to localhost when nothing you care about works from there?
You type as if you don't have an Android phone.

There is a lot that can be done with a terminal window on Android. I use it to move files around, create directories, delete files, add applications, etc.

Someday you will be able to compile a Java app on an Android phone, we are just not their yet.

I find it funny when people criticize a technology that is out for a few months compared to OS features they have used for decades. Especially when they don't seem to have hands on experience with it.

Even UNIX was not available to the masses when it first came out. These things take time..... even Linux was considered a joke at one point in time, remember?
# 12  
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Originally Posted by Neo
You type as if you don't have an Android phone.
You type like you haven't programmed in Java.

You haven't answered my points. Yes, you can move files, add files, and remove files from the CLI. Since programs are files, that includes programs, so I'd expected that much. But can you actually use any of them from there? Really use, without having to launch a GUI and mash buttons. Given it's Java, I don't think that's too likely in general. I'd love to be wrong.
# 13  
A Java paradigm on Linux for mobile applications is very powerful. It is just a matter of time when Android for tablets comes out (scheduled for 1Q 2011) and we are only seeing the beginning.

There is minimal overall computing difference between writing a C program and compiling it, versus writing a Java program and compiling it. The main difference is that, for the foreseeable future, Android Java programs will be developed "off platform" and then installed (on a table, on a mobile), whereas Linux/Unix can easily develop and compile "on platform".

However, this will change over time, especially as tablets become more mainstream, larger screens, external bluetooth keyboards and mice, etc. Smart phones and tablets are amazing. We are only in the early stages of a computing revolution, where much of what we need for personal and business communications is in tables and phones.

FWIW, I will buy a new Android tablet after the release of Android-for-tablets. I was going to get one this year, a Galaxy Tab, but decided to wait until 2011 after Android 3.0 is adopted for tables (or at least a version of Android for tablets). I would develop some apps on Android now, but I still have a legacy OSX PPC on my desk which is not very suitable (and not supported).

PS: Yes, I have some some development in Java when I worked as a principle architect large s/w company in Palo Alto. I have worked in both Java and C in the past; but mostly in PHP these days Smilie

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Originally Posted by Corona688
Really use, without having to launch a GUI and mash buttons.
I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with a GUI on a platform designed to be manipulated with our finger and not a mouse or traditional keyboard, BTW.

It is simply a different user interface model. It is a model which many people like, considering smart phones and tables were the hottest gadgets on the market in 2010 and destined to be even hotter in 2011.
# 14  
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Originally Posted by Neo
I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with a GUI on a platform designed to be manipulated with our finger and not a mouse or traditional keyboard, BTW.
Who said anything about keyboard? I'm talking about scripting. Using one program from another without having to do simulated mouseclicks etc. I've nothing against a good GUI. But if that's all there is...

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