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# 1  
Old 05-23-2012
AIX CPU waits

Guys,

I have a question - when nmon reports a sizeable %CPU wait, does that mean -

1) IO operations are slowing CPU down, OR
2) paging slowing the CPU down, OR
3) one cant tell??

I thought the nmon documentation clearly suggested that CPU waits reported in nmon were from disk operation latencies.

Thoughts??
# 2  
Old 05-23-2012
Hi,

I have just posted almost the same question, not really that sure about how tha CPU I/O wait thing works in AIX - I'm told that it's not the same as Solaris which is what I normally work on.

So will be intereste to see what comes up in your thread as well as mine.

Regards

Dave
# 3  
Old 05-24-2012
post the output of vmstat -Iwt 2 10 during a busy time and we may be able to tell you more
Regards
zxmaus
# 4  
Old 05-24-2012
CPU "wait"s mean: a process, ready to be run (again) cannot be run AND there is no other process which could be run instead. In this regard "wait" is a special kind of "idle" - one, where there are indeed processes to be run whereas "idle" takes place when there are no processes to be run at all.

It is true that - like mentioned in the paper "Demystifying I/O Wait". CPU-intensive processes running at the same time could mask I/O-waits because the processor time is given to these CPU-intensive processes while the I/O-bound process waits. This doesn't seem to be the case here, though.

To see a considerable number of waits always means: the I/O-part of the systems operation is the bottleneck. All the other parts of the system are faster than I/O. This is not necessarily bad: some part always is the weakest link in the chain and if it isn't I/O it would be something else. The question is: is the systems speed enough for you purposes? If this is the case you have nothing to do - once it isn't fast enough any more you will know where to start.

I hope this helps.

bakunin
# 5  
Old 05-28-2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakunin
CPU "wait"s mean: a process, ready to be run (again) cannot be run AND there is no other process which could be run instead. In this regard "wait" is a special kind of "idle" - one, where there are indeed processes to be run whereas "idle" takes place when there are no processes to be run at all.
Just a clarification. CPU wait pseudo state also means there are no processes ready to be run at all. The difference is at least one thread is waiting for a disk I/O to be completed. This metric is so confusing and open to misinterpretation that Solaris give up providing it starting with version 10 (2005).

I just found such a misinterpretation by looking at the other thread mentioned by gull04:
Quote:
Originally Posted by gull04
one of which is showing heavy CPU I/O wait (in the order of 20%) - on most Unix systems I've ever worked on in the past this would be considered a disaster.
There is no Unix OS where 20% of I/O wait is that alarming. An idle CPU combined with an I/O in progress are not a disaster. If you are concerned by I/O performance and load, you should use iostat, not vmstat.
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