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Operating Systems Solaris How do I establish a remote CDE or JDS session on Solaris 10? Post 302091562 by ultra0384 on Tuesday 3rd of October 2006 03:51:07 PM
Old 10-03-2006
How do I establish a remote CDE or JDS session on Solaris 10?

As stated above in the title "How do I establish a remote CDE or JDS session on Solaris 10?"

What I would like to do is be able to login to and use the machine remotely using either the CDE or JDS, preferably with out having to use a VNC, and be able to use the pretty GUI, instead of exclusively therough the CLI. I know that this can be done because I have many books on UNIX and they all say how cool X is and that you can do exactly what I am trying to do with it, except none of them explain HOW it can be done [LOL!]. I understand this could be because of all of the delicious flavors of UNIX.

Here's some info about the setup:
The machine is an AMD64 i86 running the most current version of Solaris 10 i86, pretty much out of the box-No big changes to the X system.
The X system being used is the sunX system.
The machine is NOT headless and dtterm is running since the console has the pretty solaris login window.

X and X tunneling is worrking properly because I can run X applications such as xclock, xman, and xlogo on the remote machine to the remote client. However, when performing a search in xman, as soon as a letter is pressed, it exits and the following is displayed in the window:

X Error of failed request: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
Major opcode of failed request: 102 (X_ChangeKeyboardControl)
Serial number of failed request: 502
Current serial number in output stream: 508

Not a major concern to me since I do not intend to use xman, but if the information helps find the problem, then the bytes are not wasted.

I am using the Apple X11 system on MacOS X 10.4.8 on the client machine, and using ssh -X user@host /usr/dt/bin/Xsession

I thought I knew how to do this, and I was excited to see it work-somewhat...
After entering the password for the account, the pretty screen that says "Starting Common Desktop Environment" appears in fullscreen with the little sun micro badge in the top left, except its brown and not blue, and a weird blue-green rectangle hovers above the sun badge. It sits there for a while... the screen doesnt change, and then it exits and dissapears.

I tried restarting the system, as it holds nothing important and belongs to me personally so i can do as iwish with it. Same thing.

I decided to try something different since I know that X is working. Rather than run Xsession in the fassion above, i tried running it with start-gnome.
This sorta worked...it starts, and the toolbar appears at the bottom of the screen, but there is no desktop and a blank error dialog appears. Also pressing the orange Launch button does nothing.

I've checked the Xerrors log, but nothing obvious was in there. Actually, there were no errors generated at the time I was doing all of this at all!

So-if anyone can help me out with this it woulod be greatly appreciated. Im sure its probably something simple such as a configuration script that needs some modification.

Also, if you can play nicely, if you wish to login to the machine and see for yourself whats going on, here is a login account and ip address for the machine:

host address: 72.193.221.139
username: fvallejo
password: 409elm

Normally this would be a huge security hole right here, but the machine is not important and the network it is on holds nothing important. ALSO, the ip address it is sitting on will change soon so if it quits working, let me know and i will repost the address.

I am not afraid to blow away the configuration. I ask that if you login to the system, please do not do anything harmful. Only test out the X stuff.
If the system becomes a zombie, ill unplug it and reinstall solaris immediately, and buy more books.

Thanks!
Halley Clark
 

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dtappsession(1) 						   User Commands						   dtappsession(1)

NAME
dtappsession - start a new Application Manager session SYNOPSIS
/usr/dt/bin/dtappsession [hostname] DESCRIPTION
dtappsession is a specialized version of the Xsession shell script. It is an alternative to using the CDE remote login that allows you to access a remote host without logging out of your current CDE session. dtappsession starts a new instance of the CDE Application Manager in its own ToolTalkTM session. It can be used to remotely display the Application Manager back to your local display after logging in to a remote host with the rlogin(1) command. A new, independent instance of ttsession(1) starts a simple session management window. This window displays the title remote_hostname: Remote Administration where remote_hostname is the system that is being accessed. The window also displays an Exit button. Clicking Exit terminates the ToolTalk session and all windows that are part of the session. The Application Manager that is displayed can be used to start remote CDE actions to run in this session. Exiting the Application Manager does not terminate the session, and it is not recommended. Clicking Exit is the recommended way to end the session. To avoid confusing the remote CDE applications with local ones, it is recommended that a new CDE workspace be created for clients in the remote session. The hostname is not needed when the DISPLAY environment variable is set to the local hostname on the remote host. On a system that is configured with Trusted Extensions, dtappsession can be used for remote administration by administrative roles that have the ability to log in to the remote host. dtappsession does not require any privilege, and it does not need to run on a system that is configured with Trusted Extensions. When installed in /usr/dt/bin on a Solaris system, along with the startApp.ds file, dtappsession can be used to administer the remote Solaris system from a local system that is configured with Trusted Extensions. However, in this case, the CDE workspace that is used for remote display must be a normal workspace, rather than a role workspace. EXAMPLES
Example 1 Remote Login and dtappsession After creating a new CDE workspace, type the following in a terminal window: # rlogin remote_hostname password: /*type the remote password*/ # dtappsession local_hostname /* on the remote host */ FILES
/usr/dt/bin/startApp.ds dt Korn shell script for session manager window ATTRIBUTES
See attributes(5) for descriptions of the following attributes: +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ | ATTRIBUTE TYPE | ATTRIBUTE VALUE | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Availability |SUNWdttsu | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Interface Stability |Committed | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ BUGS
X11/CDE applications that do not register with the ToolTalk session manager will not exit automatically when the session is terminated. Such applications must be explicitly terminated. SEE ALSO
dtfile(1), rlogin(1), ttsession(1), attributes(5) Chapter 14, Remote Administration in Trusted Extensions (Tasks), in Solaris Trusted Extensions Administrator's Procedures NOTES
The functionality described on this manual page is available only if the system is configured with Trusted Extensions. SunOS 5.11 15 Aug 2005 dtappsession(1)
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