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# 239  
Old 02-14-2015
bash

I just recently started using bash command line shortcuts
Code:
!*, !^, !$

etc. Quite helpful. I also like aliases, especially to source files as in
Code:
alias p='. .profile'

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# 240  
Old 02-15-2015
Mostly csh and ksh ...
# 241  
Old 03-13-2016
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Originally Posted by buffoonix
How come so many prefer the Korn shell?

What I don't like about it is that it's proprietary
though by now I think there is a public domain ksh available.
I know I'm replying to a 10 years old post but nevertheless, this was and is still incorrect. While it is true the legacy ksh88 is proprietary, the latest version of AT&T ksh (ksh93) was already open sourced in 2006. It was released under an OSI approved open source licence in 2000. As AT&T has recently closed the servers providing the code, here is an alternate location where it can be found : https://github.com/att/ast/tree/master/src/cmd/ksh93

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On some modern Unices like HP-UX there's no need at all for ksh
since the standard HP shell is a Posix shell with much of the capabilities
of Bash or Ksh.
This isn't accurate either, the POSIX /bin/sh available under these Unix implementations is still based on ksh source code, the binary is renamed sh to comply with POSIX.
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So no doubt, Perl is my preferred shell.
Perl is hardly a shell.

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# 242  
Old 03-16-2016
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Originally Posted by jlliagre
I know I'm replying to a 10 years old post but nevertheless, this was and is still incorrect.
This is all very true. and many thanks for providing the link to the ksh repository.

Even more so, if someone wants a "non-proprietary" OS, UNIX (and rather less the POSIX-standard itself, if we could count that as a "blueprint-OS") is non-proprietary at all. Linux is - at least in a sense - non-proprietary, but it is NOT UNIX. This is not to say it is better or worse than any UNIX - just different. It is about as much "UNIX" as Plan9 or HURD (the GNU-OS) is: in many respects very similar because the lessons of UNIX were rather well learned and in some respects totally different (and not always for the better).

So, the notion that in a completely proprietary OS the shell should be non-proprietary is an artificial demand.

For me the main reason to use the ksh - ksh88, mind you, because it is the default shell in AIX - is that it is IMHO better suited to large-scale shell programming than bash is. I make extensive use of the FPATH feature which lets me put a library of script functions somewhere. bash doesn't have that and even though i have tried hard to come up with a similar functionality i haven't found a way to do it up to now.

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# 243  
Old 03-17-2016
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Originally Posted by bakunin
I make extensive use of the FPATH feature which lets me put a library of script functions somewhere. bash doesn't have that and even though i have tried hard to come up with a similar functionality i haven't found a way to do it up to now.
Same thing here:

Code:
$ ls $FPATH|wc -l     
868
$ cat $FPATH/* | wc -l
40774

;-)
# 244  
Old 03-28-2016
Hi.

If I understand this correctly, there is an autoload feature available for bash. I have tried it out and it seemed to work for me. At one time, there was an examples directory in /usr/share/doc/bash, but as of bash GNU bash 4.3.30 it no longer existed (at least not on Debian 8.3 (jessie)

See results of a search for bash autoload Kennedy , producing:
http://bashcookbook.com/bashinfo/sou...ns/autoload.v3

As for perl, there is a perl shell: psh. I used an older one, but a (somewhat) newer one can be seen at https://gnp.github.io/psh/

Best wishes ... cheers, drl

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# 245  
Old 07-06-2016
I like to keep all so simple as I can and using bash everywhere I can Smilie
I'm too stupid to learn dozen different shells.
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