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Yes, now you have it!

It 's all play on the irony of commercial interests in a world of open ideas and concepts.

This site is not Unix either, it is the UNiversal Internet eXchange.
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So does this mean that linux cannot exist on it's own without the GNU system? It sounds like you cannot have the linux OS without gnu. Gnu being the system, meaning the actuall programs and what not, it seems you would not be able to do anything with the linux kernal without it.

And above someone said gnu is what give you ls, cd, mkdir, etc. I thought it was bash and all the other shells that gave you those functions.

sorry, i am still trying to learn

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And above someone said gnu is what give you ls, cd, mkdir, etc. I thought it was bash and all the other shells that gave you those functions.

sorry, i am still trying to learn
BASH is a GNU product.

from 'bash --help'

"GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release-(i586-suse-linux)"
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So does this mean that linux cannot exist on it's own without the GNU system? It sounds like you cannot have the linux OS without gnu. Gnu being the system, meaning the actuall programs and what not, it seems you would not be able to do anything with the linux kernal without it.

Yes, it could exist, but you would have to build an entire supporting environment. No, it cannot exist because the GNU environment is currently how Linux is supported

So, since Linux is built on GNU and no one has built another supporting environment, GNU is the Linux supporting environment. If people build an entire supporting environment that was not GNU, then the situation would be different. But the situation is what is it..........
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Ah okay I understand my friend . And I now agree with stallman, that OS's like red hat should infact be called gnu/linux.
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