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Old 04-18-2009
user & groups

1 - what is the maximum no: of groups a user can be a part of ?
2 - what is maximum no: of users a group can contain ?
# 2  
Old 04-18-2009
Senmak,
2000 users per group, but a user can be in every group you have on the system
Hope that helps
kind regards
zxmaus
# 3  
Old 04-19-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by zxmaus
[...]2000 users per group[...]
Hm, this point might need clarification. Could you post a link (preferably to the IBM pSeries and AIX Information center) where you got that number from?
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Old 04-19-2009
just wanted to confirm is this also applicable to other Linux operating system ?
# 5  
Old 04-19-2009
Hi,

the info is from IBM AIX Support in uk a couple of months ago:
according to them, it is set in /usr/include/grp.h and either cannot or should not be changed.

Rgds
zxmaus
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Old 04-19-2009
If your users have their home directories or shared applications NFS V3 mounted from a NFS file server then the maximum number of groups a user may be in is 16.

The maximum number users in a groups is determined by the total string length (1024 iirc) but you can get around this by having numerous groups with the same GID, e.g.:
name GID
group 1100
groupa 1100
groupb 1100
groupc 1100
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Old 04-19-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by zxmaus
[...]the info is from IBM AIX Support [...]:
according to them, it is set in /usr/include/grp.h and either cannot or should not be changed.[...]
Thanks, zxmaus. So the pointer is still to the length of a line in the /etc/group file. It is just as it was in AIX 4 times - disappointing Smilie
Code:
#define MAXGRP          2000
/* In GRPLINLEN the 14 represents the ":!:GID LENGTH:" in the group file. */
#define GRPLINLEN       (L_cuserid) + ((L_cuserid + 1) * MAXGRP) + 14

(I copied the header lines from an 5.3 TL 9 system just for completeness of this thread). I searched the web and found that apparently there where Design Change Requests before, one being MR0214024620. This DCR got rejected for the following reason:
Quote:
AIX development does not intend to increase MAXGRP beyond 2000 because it would introduce binary compatiblity problems (due to static definitions) and because of the limited demand for this capabilily.
Yes - the limited demand... Smilie

@OP that does mean for your question No. 2: You cannot have more than 2000 users with a user name length of eight chars in one line in /etc/group (i.e. about 16000 chars). Mind that mkuser lets you create groups with more than 2000 users without complaining and that grpck will not report errors on such groups as long as you stay below the line length limit (e.g. when using usernames shorter than 8 chars). But you have the opportunity to have more than 2k users in one group without (unexpected) problems by using the workaround from AIX 4 times: you define several group names (group1, group2, group3) in several lines that all have the same group ID. This way you can get around that limit without hitting the named binary compatibility problems.
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